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Another Residential VOIP Provider Closing
Just a heads up, another residential VoIP provider is winding things down now and preparing for a client fire sale to try to sell their clients before time runs out.
I can't say names due to NDA, but it's a complete liquidation.
I think we're going to sit this one out, but anyway...another one is as good as gone now.
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Sweet! Less competition for Voipo. Plus customers being moved elsewhere might not like the idea, and they can jump on the great deal that Voipo is offering.
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uhm, I think I get it this time;)
hints
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Originally Posted by
VOIPoTim
Just a heads up, another residential VoIP provider is winding things down now and preparing for a client fire sale to try to sell their clients before time runs out.
I can't say names due to NDA, but it's a complete liquidation.
I think we're going to sit this one out, but anyway...another one is as good as gone now.
Can you tell us if this is a big provider that we will recognize?
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Brian
Can you tell us if this is a big provider that we will recognize?
Yes, are we able to TALK about it Via this forum?:eek:
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Originally Posted by
NY Tel Guy
Yes, are we able to TALK about it Via this forum?:eek:
Wishful thinking, or inside information ?
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"I can't say names due to NDA, but it's a complete liquidation."
"preparing for a client fire sale to try to sell their clients before time runs out"
NDA = None disclosure agreement.
Sounds like they contacted VOIPo and are trying to sell their customers to them.
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I think its AT&T, polatitions broke up the bells, the 2 t's are the twins, don't know about rain or bailout, if you don't ask about rate reductions, they don't tell and they are international.
What do i win !!!!
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As extra evidence from their website
"Thank you for your interest in AT&T CallVantageĀ® service. Currently we are not accepting new orders for AT&T CallVantage service. We will continue to evaluate our AT&T CallVantage service and remain committed to providing leading, next generation voice services for today's consumer and business customers. For information on other AT&T products and service please visit www.att.com"
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Originally Posted by
quattrohead
As extra evidence from their website
"Thank you for your interest in AT&T CallVantageĀ® service. Currently we are not accepting new orders for AT&T CallVantage service. We will continue to evaluate our AT&T CallVantage service and remain committed to providing leading, next generation voice services for today's consumer and business customers. For information on other AT&T products and service please visit www.att.com"
That message has been there for a least a year and a half. :p
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Originally Posted by
dbmaven
Actually this is another one.
Name is also at the end of the alphabet though. Just can't name it due to NDAs.
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Hmmmm..... high end of the alphabet....
Vonage and ViaTalk immediately come to mind....
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Originally Posted by
dbmaven
Hmmmm..... high end of the alphabet....
Vonage and ViaTalk immediately come to mind....
Almost coincidental that it would relate to VT, as Tim was a principal in that company. Seems to relate to a non-disclosure agreement that has his hands tied at the moment.
If that's the case, he certainly can't speak...that is until he makes a bid for the remains and succeeds with it.:p
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Of course, with them rolling out new features, etc, I would have to wonder a little about it being them...
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Brian
Of course, with them rolling out new features, etc, I would have to wonder a little about it being them...
If I remember, the crew of the Titanic was arranging the deck chairs as the ship was sinking..;)
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Originally Posted by
Brian
Of course, with them rolling out new features, etc, I would have to wonder a little about it being them...
I would to. Doesn't add up. But if investors are screaming, little does it matter what the troops in the trenches are doing.....Of course, if it is ViaTalk - the fact that they just moved to the HT502 as their standard ATA device makes a transition awfully easy.... ;)
There are several other possibilities at that end of the alphabet - Packet8 (having some interesting problems this week) and the remains of the SunRocket disaster = Teleblend....
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Originally Posted by
dbmaven
I would to. Doesn't add up. But if investors are screaming, little does it matter what the troops in the trenches are doing.....Of course, if it is ViaTalk - the fact that they just moved to the HT502 as their standard ATA device makes a transition awfully easy.... ;)
There are several other possibilities at that end of the alphabet - Packet8 (having some interesting problems this week) and the remains of the SunRocket disaster = Teleblend....
I wonder if Teleblend's demise would even rate a line of print on page 50 of a 49 page newspaper.:rolleyes:
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Sunrocket just rolled out a new billing system and website when the budgie fell off the perch !!!!
So is it before or after V......
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burris
I wonder if Teleblend's demise would even rate a line of print on page 50 of a 49 page newspaper.:rolleyes:
rofl :D
I do know of one forum that would have a huge jump in activity....
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Originally Posted by
dbmaven
There are several other possibilities at that end of the alphabet - Packet8 (having some interesting problems this week) and the remains of the SunRocket disaster = Teleblend....
If it were TB and we did it, would we inherit their forum too? ;)
It's not them, but good guess for sure.
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VOIPoTim
If it were TB and we did it, would we inherit their forum too? ;)
It's not them, but good guess for sure.
My money's on the one from New York State.
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Too bad its not the company from the state of New Jersey!! :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by
Vumes
Too bad its not the company from the state of New Jersey!! :rolleyes:
You notice that there is a common link here: The letter "V"
Vonage
ViaTalk
Voicewing
Voipo
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So just for my knowledge, is ViaTalk backed by "a multi-million dollar web hosting company?"
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Vumes
So just for my knowledge, is ViaTalk backed by "a multi-million dollar web hosting company?"
I believe that is the case.
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Ok, just making sure. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by
dbmaven
rofl :D
I do know of one forum that would have a huge jump in activity....
Yes and beginning tonight for the whole weekend, DSL Reports will be DOWN Totally for a database move.
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Vumes
So just for my knowledge, is ViaTalk backed by "a multi-million dollar web hosting company?"
Yeah. HostRocket was doing ~ $2.4 million a year when I was there.
Comparitively, we did ~ $37 million at HostGator this past year.
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How soon might we see this company close down?
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http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r218...Level3-a-goner
Is it Level3? Makes sense you would have a non-disclosure.
You wanted CLEC status too . . .
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Another one bites the dust??
Has anyone seen this and can they confirm it? *
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r218...connect-in-Feb
* Source: Fisamo
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NY Tel Guy
Not the one I've been talking about, but still nice to hear.
I'm guessing I'll be in the minority here when I said the more the merrier. ;)
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NY Tel Guy
That thread reminds me. Magic jack looks like a joke but they are sure spending a ton of money on advertising.
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VOIPoTim
Not the one I've been talking about, but still nice to hear.
I'm guessing I'll be in the minority here when I said the more the merrier. ;)
I keep wondering when the heck is Vonage going to fold its cards. It is long overdue.
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See my follow-up post in the DSLR thread referenced by NY Tel. Looks like CallVantage will be phased out over the next several months, with users getting 60 days from their termination notice to port away. After they stopped taking new customers, I can't say I'm surprised by this move. Disappointed, but not surprised.
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Here is my view...
Look at their (AT&T and Verizon) situation in comparison to the cable companies. That's who they consider to be their biggest competition.
Now look at the pricepoints. The cable companies saw huge growth with average pricing being $40+/mo and without the hassle of ATAs, etc.
AT&T and Verizon on the other hand had VoIP services competition with their other offerings at a low pricepoint and didn't see much growth in them.
If they compare their situation to the one with the cable companies, I can't say I blame them.
Back when they had launched these services, the cable co stuff wasn't really in the picture then and these were more of a reaction to Vonage. I don't think they even want to compete in the Vonage/independent market since it's primarily driven by price.
Today with the fiber services and the fact that DSL coverage is very very high, why not drop the low-priced independent service and push a new service bundling hard and in a more integrated way?
Obviously the higher price point is not an issue for the cable companies, so they likely have some confidence in it not being so for them either if they execute it well.
That's how I'd look at it.
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Oh, I completely agree with you. Look at Uverse Voice where it's available. It has all of the good features of CallVantage (might as well keep the good parts from the 'old' acquired company, right?) at the cableco price point.
I'm just disappointed that I'm losing a service that's been spot-on reliable and already has the features I use most at a reasonable price. (So when did you say are you launching Voipo Connect?) The other thing CV has had on Voipo, from my perspective, is 4 years of post-launch experience. You've just experienced the thrill of launch, along with the little 'critters' that stow away and then chew on the wiring as soon as you reach orbit... On the one hand, you definitely have learned a lot from your previous experience, and that shows (very much a compliment). On the other hand, you still have a new system that's getting on its feet, and you have some major changes planned for the near future (Connect/voicemail system, for example). That is not a complaint or a criticism, just a statement of where you are right now.
Since I did sign up for a yearly account, you can rest assured that I'll stick around. When you bring back Carrier, I'll be able to have my main line on Residential service, and do my playing on that system. ;)
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Originally Posted by
VOIPoTim
Actually this is another one.
Name is also at the end of the alphabet though. Just can't name it due to NDAs.
Looks like this finally happened.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22399634-Zingotel-Gone
They were desperately trying to sell their clients, but wanted $100+ for them. That's below average, but right now our acquisition cost is aproximately $32 (HostGator is right around this as well) so it just wouldn't make sense to pay $100+ for a client at this point.