Hardware Options

[VOIPoTim]

We're weighing a few new options with hardware to try to get the costs down for resellers.

In the past we had good success with Grandstream HT-286 devices, but moved to a 2 line model GrandstreamHT-502 and had horrible experiences.

The 286 was always solid though, but since we needed a 2 line model for our offering, we couldn't use them.

We are considering offering the 286s as a provisioned option for resellers to purchase from us in addition to the PAP2s.

We could likely get the cost for you below $30 with them which could easily be recovered with a $29.95 setup fee which is the standard amount charged for many providers such as ViaTalk, Packet8, etc.

http://www.voipsupply.com/grandstream-gs-286

Is this something you guys would be interested in?

[tylerscell1]

Im so used to the PAP2t's now i probly would not switch. Thats just me though...

[usa2k]

I welcome the Grandstream HT286. I had great experience with the GS HT286 and would welcome managed support of that device! I see no downside as a single line product. $30 with shipping direct to the user would be great.

I do encourage VOIPo to ensure clear product selections versus "an adapter" of some kind that could vary. I hope you also get the buying clout to offer something like the RT31P2. A router capable ATA can simplify things even if the cost is a bit more.

I wonder as you have switched primarily to the PAP2T if you get more support questions from people who do not understand the need of a router? In 2003 Vonage offered the Netgear RP614 four port router as an accessory to their provided Cisco ATA 186. That was a wise option IMHO. It was worth the extra $40.00 to those who lacked a router. It was simple and did the job, and was my first experience using a router.

[MacGyverLabs]

Is this something you guys would be interested in?

From my perspective, it's worth an extra $10 to me to have both an extra port, and to "standardize" on a proven, common, stable device (meaning, from a support standpoint, I only need to know the details and idiosyncrasies of a single device). So, sans introduction of another device more solid as the PAP2T, I will probably stick with the PAP2T.

That said, I welcome choice and encourage you guys to reach outside the box and offer options... so long as support for the tried-and-true does not suffer (based on what I've seen of VoIPo thus far, definitely not a concern), and I will be able to specify the exact adapter model I want when ordering for a customer. Like USA2K said... "ensure clear product selections versus 'an adapter' of some kind that could vary".

You never know... when that next VoIP/router combo comes out and starts working like a champ, I may just have to move my allegiance!

[voipinit]

I think you would find the HT-502's are now exceptionally stable and the issues with them were fixed several firmware updates ago. It has been stable for me and I find it a better device than the PAP2T.

[zevin]

The 502's are a touchy subject for us. Let not relive that.

However, the 286 is still being used on one of my accounts. I feel I could structure something, perhaps a lite package with only the 286 (one line only), and a delux package with the PAP2 (two lines with more options).

So, yes.

/runs to closet to dig out old 286 purchased during inventory clearance sale

[usa2k]

I have a couple HT286 when provisioning needs some testing.

[usa2k]

Even now, with two types of approved ATAs, doesn't it make sense that when a MAC ID is recorded to the system, that the Device Type also be recorded? It might make managed provisioning simpler.

[usa2k]

It looks like the SPA2102 may be worth adding to the hardware line-up.
$63.95 Retail on http://www.thetelecomspot.com/linksy...r-p-27840.html

SPA2102

• SPA = Sipura Phone Adapter?
• 2 = LAN Ports
• 1 = WAN Port
• 2 = Phone Ports

Not sure with VOIPo buying power, how low you could get it?
There should be something like the RT31P2 even if it costs a bit more.

Comparatively, the PAP2T lists for $49.95

I am getting the feeling that Cisco does not make the RP31P2 anymore.

PS

SPA3102 is also a good candidate for $68.50 Retail
http://www.thetelecomspot.com/linksy...r-p-27841.html
It can leverage existing PSTN if needed too.

[usa2k]

I see new stuff at https://cp.voipwelcome.com/hardware
False alarm. Just redundant menu links.