Hardware Options

[voipinit]

I am getting the feeling that Cisco does not make the RP31P2 anymore.

That would be accurate.

[usa2k]

We're weighing a few new options with hardware to try to get the costs down for resellers.

In the past we had good success with Grandstream HT-286 devices, but moved to a 2 line model GrandstreamHT-502 and had horrible experiences.

The 286 was always solid though, but since we needed a 2 line model for our offering, we couldn't use them.

We are considering offering the 286s as a provisioned option for resellers to purchase from us in addition to the PAP2s.

We could likely get the cost for you below $30 with them which could easily be recovered with a $29.95 setup fee which is the standard amount charged for many providers such as ViaTalk, Packet8, etc.

http://www.voipsupply.com/grandstream-gs-286

Is this something you guys would be interested in?

What of the Grandstream Handy Tone 486?
I bet the config files would be identical to the HT286

HT486 would handle users lacking a router. Pass-through might keep customers with routers happy too. I would be happy to beta test.
The mass market I suspect has little inclination to have more than a single phone line in their home.

Built-in router, NAT, Gateway and DMZ port forwarding.
Can also be configured to function as a two Ethernet ports bridge (NAT function is disabled)

http://www.grandstream.com/user_manu...UserManual.pdf

TechSpot lists HT486 for $37.95 Retail (HT286 lists at $32.45)

These two GS adapters would compliment each other very well.

[uhf]

I'd love an ATA that can go in front of my router and do QOS for the Voip traffic, especially one that can operate in Bridged mode.

Bring on the HT486! I'll be more than happy to try one out.

[VOIPoTim]

I really don't think we'd try any new Grandstream products due to our past experiences and Grandstream's inability to make the HT-502 a reliable device even though we worked with them for months. Using their HT-502 model caused us to lose over $150K directly.

The HT-286 is one we tried and it had good luck with and have thought about offering it for resellers to offer. It's a very simple device and has been around for many years so there's not a lot that can go wrong with it.

[usa2k]

I really don't think we'd try any new Grandstream products due to our past experiences ...

Its only a risk to the Reseller ...

[voipinit]

GRANDSTREAM NETWORKS
Firmware Release Notes
Firmware Version 1.1.0.42
Product Name: HT-486 / HT-286
Date: November 5, 2009
SUMMARY OF UPDATES
The main purpose of this release is addressing stability issues observed in previous releases.

[usa2k]

...
The main purpose of this release is addressing stability issues observed in previous releases.

Have you used this device before?

The HT286 works flawlessly, and I am betting the 486 has the same code base.
Still, the added router code would be the $64,000 question.

I think to ignore the 486, might overlook great opportunities with Mom and Pop Residential opportunities.

[voipinit]

usa2k,
No, I'm not saying the HT-286/486 is not good device, it is. After all, I use the HT-502 which works flawlessly as well (yes, I was around when VOIPo was battling them) but GS finally fixed them. I've used the HT-502 in front of and (currently) behind my router without an issue. The PAP2T is a good device as well, but Atlanta having the largest local calling area in the nation (3 area codes and about to go to 4) the last area code with the most available numbers is servicing a huge geographic area, causing some calls to go thru several switching stations before it 'finds' you, which would consistently overflow the PAP2T and force a reboot of the device. Every time my virtual number was called, you could see the PAP2T reboot and if I was on the phone when that occurred, the call was abruptly broken. The HT-502 having route capabilities doesn't suffer the same drawbacks as I suspect most ATA's with route abilities are immune to this issue as well.