Issues with available numbers and rate centers

[VOIPoTim]

That supports the need for a CSV file with this minimal criteria:

STATE, CITY, COUNTRY, NPA, NXX, RATE-CENTER

That way it is assured that the numbers can at least be ordered.

My concern though is that if the carriers don't have any, then we wouldn't be able to manually order them either. Since there'd be no timeline I was hesitant to let people order them not knowing when the carriers may replenish them (could be a day, could be weeks).

[uhf]

So now the customer will go elsewhere, when possibly they could have gotten a number by becoming a customer and waiting a few days.

I'm just a retail residential customer, but based on the current list of available numbers, I would have not switched from Callcentric to Voipo. Not only is my "podunk" area not listed, but Cedar Rapids, Iowa is not listed. It's the second largest city in Iowa, while some cities of 3,000 people ARE listed. Both areas are covered by Qwest as the ILEC. I assume Paetec (not sure if you are using them, but would guess that you are) is a CLEC that is available at least in Cedar Rapids, not sure of the podunk.

I guess I'm saying that I much preferred the "to be assigned" system rather than the guess if coverage might be available tomorrow/next week system now in place.

[VOIPoTim]

I guess I'm saying that I much preferred the "to be assigned" system rather than the guess if coverage might be available tomorrow/next week system now in place.

I understand that, but in some cases it was a month before carriers had inventory in and we have very hostile people getting impatient waiting for their number. This increases support costs a lot since customers have to contact support and it's not automated.

Pros and cons to all ways and we're open to finding a better way, but if we can't give a definitive timeline for the "unavailable" areas to have new numbers issued, customers get very hostile very quickly.

We've found that most customers see a location isn't available and will order a closeby area rather than waiting.

[MacGyverLabs]

I understand that, but in some cases it was a month before carriers had inventory in and we have very hostile people getting impatient waiting for their number. This increases support costs a lot since customers have to contact support and it's not automated.

Pros and cons to all ways and we're open to finding a better way, but if we can't give a definitive timeline for the "unavailable" areas to have new numbers issued, customers get very hostile very quickly.

Alright, Tim's comments and USA2K's list for Austin gave me an idea...
I noticed that MagicJack has 26,000 Austin numbers reserved - presumably significant 'internal' inventory they've decided to reserve.

I, like some others have mentioned, are primarily interested in serving a specific geographic area (in my case, Austin - a large MSA). However, numbers continue to be scarce (or nonexistent - depending upon the moment you check via the API). So, what if resellers could keep their own inventory for areas of specific interest to them...

That said, here's the proposed 'better way'...
Presumably, VOIPo pays significantly less than $1/month to 'rent' a DID (I know - price likely varies by rate center). In addition to the $1/month VOIPo would charge resellers for an 'active' number, would it be possible/feasible for you guys to offer an additional feature to resellers... inventory capture?

For example... In addition to the 'create account' function, I could have a 'buy inventory' function with the same drop down boxes that would allow me to 'buy' a number and place it on my reseller account, with these considerations...

• These numbers would be reserved for my reseller account, but would remain 'unassigned' to any reseller customer account and thus would not have any activity - yet be available exclusively to that reseller account.
• VOIPo would pass on the expense of renting the number (maybe at cost or just slightly over) - presumably something around $0.25/month/number, if my wholesale DID research is accurate - and some areas go for around $.15/number/month (an example/suggestion - not trying to set policy, Tim!).
• When creating a new account in the reseller CP, a new option would appear in the "state" drop-down called "Inventory", which would then pop a dropdown of all available inventory numbers in numerical order. (Or, better yet, inventory numbers would appear mingled in with their appropriate state/city service area selection, possibly designated with an asterisk or something to indicate it is an inventory item... that way I can decide to pick a 'new' number, or select an existing inventory item)
• Once placed in service on a customer account, the number then begins billing as an 'active' number at $1/month.
• Ideally, when an account is 'canceled', resellers would have the option of fully canceling the number as we do today, or canceling the customer account and returning the number to reseller inventory.

This would allow those resellers experiencing number acquisition challenges to carry their own inventory (at a reasonable cost) for areas they are especially interested in serving, rather than risk having to turn customers away. With this design, each individual reseller would also be able to determine their own cost/benefit/risk threshold for inventory.

So, what'dya think?

[usa2k]

+1 for that thought!

I suspect ordering numbers may also involve a minimum quantity, so if that is the case, it could be part of the criteria. I do not know if they all have to be from 1 area either?

Not to make this overly complex ... There may also be the option of choosing the reserved inventory that allows outbound CNAM, Phone Book Listing, and other things that the Reseller could charge more for if targeting Business Clients.

[usa2k]

Tim, has there been any thought on Resellers reserving blocks of numbers?

• Say 20 numbers from one Rate Center for $2.00/month.
  
  • Some reasonable quantity and price.
  
  
  
  • Maybe a reserve setup fee.
    
    • So our target markets have inventory
    • Inventory could recharge at a trigger point.
    
    
  
  

They would switch to $1 or $5 monthly when in use like regular inventory.

[usa2k]

They are talking on the forums too.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r238...ection-of-DIDs

EDIT: Perhaps the new CLEC will make such need for inventory moot.

[usa2k]

Corrected, and a big list
http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/ratecenter?ratecenter=CEDAR%20RPDS&state=IA

Austin TX is huge
http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/ra...USTIN&state=TX

[uhf]

Looks like Quest has a lock on Cedar rapids
http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/cl...de=CDRRIADTDS0

There's definitely others. 360 Networks is one. Looks like that is probably the carrier in question in this case. I have one of their DIDs now in Independence, Iowa (from Voipo). MegaPop/StarNet is another possibility, although I haven't found a list of exchanges they cover yet. They have dial up internet numbers there.

Makes me think I better hold onto that virtual number I have instead of having it canceled when my Qwest number ports, which should be Monday. I may not be able to get one again if I want one, and it's a xx00 number, which is always nice.

edit to add: 360 shows current availability in Cedar Rapids. Wonder why it's not available through Voipo, or maybe it won't show up until tomorrow?

[usa2k]

I had clicked on the wrong link - it is corrected in my post.
Sorry for miss-information!