we're all functions of our own experiences. your experience is no less important than mine. which is why I did say that Vonage does it best by offering a choice of adapters based on end-user's existing network. the point, as we're trying to help VOIPO in return for the free service, is to identify areas in which they can provide a more satisfactory experience than other providers. my point is there are unsophisticated users with a single PC plugged into a broadband modem. your point is that there are sophisticated users who already have a broadband router. both points are equally valid -- there's no argument from me. We have told VOIPO, our job is done. Now they get to decide what they want to do.