Very pronounced "speakerphone" effect to calls?

[lifespeed]

I think in many cases this issue is hardware related; echo cancellation, VAD (Voice Audio Detection).

Depending on which ATA/analog phone combination or SIP phone your are using you may or may not have problems.

IMHO, the best solution for VoIP telephony is a true internet phone that plugs into ethernet. Note that wifi phones (or your Android or iPhone) can have this capability.

In short, I think this problem is up to the user to solve with the correct hardware. However, as VoIPo concentrates on ATA and not BYOD (understandable for the support issues), one is likely to experience these problems, and VoIPo is contributing by steering users torwards ATA and analog phones, which are more likely to have echo/'half-duplex' issues.

Here is a link to a review of a quality DECT IP phone. One could install this phone, using DECT cordless and a direct internet connection, without rewiring ethernet throughout their house. VoIPo does allow BYOD connections (that is all I use), but does not provide tech support for the device you choose.

[Russell]

I think in many cases this issue is hardware related; echo cancellation, VAD (Voice Audio Detection).

Depending on which ATA/analog phone combination or SIP phone your are using you may or may not have problems.

IMHO, the best solution for VoIP telephony is a true internet phone that plugs into ethernet. Note that wifi phones (or your Android or iPhone) can have this capability.

In short, I think this problem is up to the user to solve with the correct hardware. However, as VoIPo concentrates on ATA and not BYOD (understandable for the support issues), one is likely to experience these problems, and VoIPo is contributing by steering users torwards ATA and analog phones, which are more likely to have echo/'half-duplex' issues.

Some of us are old-fashioned and like our entire house wiring to be usable. Is that doable with what you propose? If not, there's a good reason for the VOIPo approach.

[lifespeed]

Some of us are old-fashioned and like our entire house wiring to be usable. Is that doable with what you propose? If not, there's a good reason for the VOIPo approach.

An ATA could still connect your house wiring with the associated problems and limitations. Really, cordless DECT phones are so good they are indistinguishable from your house phone wiring (in fact noticeably better in the context of VoIP if you use an IP phone). You could easily place one at each of your normal corded phone locations.

Phone wiring is on the way out. It is somewhat problematic in the context of VoIP and near-useless for high speed internet. The problem is you are making an extra analog-to-digital conversion anytime you use a digital cordless phone with an ATA. One conversion in the handset to send voice digitally over the radio to the base station, convert back to analog to go over the phone cord to the ATA, then converted to digital again to go over the internet. This is very much the wrong way to do things.

You are entitled to your old-fashioned views, of course. I find phone wiring to be of little use anymore, and do not use mine at all. The solution I described would likely be a big improvement over your phone lines. For extra credit, run CAT6 ethernet to a couple locations you are likely to want corded phone/internet access. Use wifi or DECT for the rest. You could still 'light up' your phone wiring with an ATA if you really wanted to, but would probably find yourself prefering the IP phones if you had both available to use.

[Russell]

We have / have had phone in the master bedroom, two kids bedrooms, bonus room, family room, kitchen, computer desk, etc. Some being two line phones one being a 4-line phone. All working quite well using our old fashioned approach with VOIPo supplied ATAs. So, I'd need a 2 line DECT base station with multiple handsets (say half a dozen) using your approach. Right? Do you have such a setup? If so curious what kind of money we're talking about.